Lara Schmoisman (00:00)

Hi everyone. Welcome back to Coffee Number 5. So don’t get too stressed today, relax a little bit, but if you can’t, I’m going to tell you how. And I was so impressed. I heard this man talk at this gentleman in a conference that it was a couple of months ago. And I was like, you need to be in my podcast because I think everyone in the business world, in the entrepreneurship world,

 

What’s super stress? And sometimes it’s really hard for us to close our mind. I think that it’s so hard to stop ourselves from thinking sometimes that we cannot think clearly. So I was so impressed by Dr. Patrick Potter’s presentation that I invited him to have coffee with me. Hi, doctor. How are you doing?

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (00:54)

I’m

 

doing great. Thanks for having me.

 

Lara Schmoisman (00:56)

So I want you are the founder of Brain Tap. What is Brain Tap and how did you come to the conclusion that the Brain Tap was needed in this world?

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (01:09)

I think we have a technology problem out there in the world today, right? I mean people looking at their screens or they’re bombarded by EMFs There’s all this electrical noise that’s going on around us EMFs and things of that nature and We need a technology solution. So what I back in the 80s actually in 1986 I was with a group called light and sound research and We were looking at ways to help people get out of pain my background psychology so they I would be sent people that were

 

Lara Schmoisman (01:13)

Mm-hmm.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (01:39)

psychologically in pain, but they shouldn’t have physiologically been in pain. They had a surgery or maybe they had something happen to their body. And so what we were doing was we were teaching them something called biofeedback. were teaching them to, for instance, if you have a headache and your hands are warm, you won’t have a headache anymore because we now know that you create alpha brain waves. And so we started researching on how can we trigger this activity in the brain? We call it brain wave entrainment. So when you’re training the brain,

 

Lara Schmoisman (01:51)

Mm-hmm.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (02:08)

that’s why we call it brain fitness is we need stimulus to do that. Every cell of your body is interacting with its environment and it’s training to the environment. So for instance, if you and I were to sit down next to the ocean, that ocean has an evoked potential of 10 Hertz just happens to be alpha, which is a relaxing, comfortable state. So what we started looking at is what, what do we have out there in nature that is already doing this? And then how can we create a technology solution?

 

that can do the same thing because people can’t always go to the ocean. They can’t always go to the mountaintop. They can’t always do all these things. So how can you have a brain break, get your brain back to balance? And right now, I think the main reason we created it, and now as we look back over the last 38 years is that people right now are under chronic low level stress all the time. I mean, used to be when I was in practice before 2000,

 

I could leave the office, shut the door, and not have to worry about any clients until the next morning. I’d go in and… Yes!

 

Lara Schmoisman (03:15)

I remember those days that you can even, you

 

take a trip and you don’t have emails, you don’t have phone calls, don’t have cell phones, nothing. But I mean, it’s so interesting that as we grow in this time and this time, we’re always talking about balance. And to me, balance is kind of the age, sometimes, because what balance means for me can be different for someone else.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (03:22)

Yeah.

 

Lara Schmoisman (03:42)

But everyone is talking about work-life balance. But we forgot about balance our brain many times.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (03:48)

Yes.

 

Yeah. When you’re under stress, you basically you have a cortisol response and you also your liver pumps 25 grams of sugar into your bloodstream. So if you’re thinking about that, that’s like eating a candy bar every time you get stressed out. So if you’re not to a newer in your running your own business, you’re going to have a lot of activations. Let’s call them where you get stressed out. Like things don’t work out the way you want them to. So your brain actually tells your body

 

Lara Schmoisman (03:58)

Mm-hmm.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (04:18)

that it’s in fight or flight because this body isn’t designed to work in the environments we’re in today. mean, it wasn’t, you know, 2000 years ago, we were living in caves, you know? So here we are, we’re under lights, we’re living in homes. We don’t have the same stressors that we have, but the stress we have today, it’s constant. So one of the reasons that I invented Brain Tap and why I think people need to have some kind of brain fitness is we need to disassociate, but in a positive way.

 

A lot of people disassociate with drugs and alcohol and things of that nature, but we want to disassociate in a very natural way in ourselves, actually on a physiological level, ourselves want light, sound and vibration. That’s,

 

Lara Schmoisman (04:51)

Mm-hmm.

 

Okay,

 

let’s explain for a second what brain fitness is because many people think that it’s doing puzzles or trying to grow your IQ.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (05:06)

Jing.

 

Right. That’s, that’s not really brain fitness. In fact, the science has proven that the smarter you become, the dumber you are. It’s, you have to be creative. So there’s a right brain and there’s a left brain. So our society acknowledges everyone who’s left brained and they can pass tests and they can do all these things. They can do puzzles. They can do Sudoku or, or whatever. And they, they master those things, but they can’t fix the tire on their car.

 

Lara Schmoisman (05:41)

That’s true.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (05:41)

You know,

 

so the reality is that we need both of these brains. We need this creative brain. When you think about the Renaissance men like Leonardo da Vinci and Edison, Tesla, those kinds of people, they were both left brained and right brained. So today, what I think people are lacking is when we think about balance and it really comes down to voltage in the brain because the brain voltage that we have, our foods that we’re consuming are

 

Lara Schmoisman (05:49)

Mm-hmm.

 

Mm-hmm.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (06:10)

causing our body to become toxic. The environments that we’re in are causing our body to be toxic. Our thoughts, in fact, Deepak Chopra, who’s probably one of the leading voices out there in what we call quantum health, he says that 90 % of the thoughts we have today were the same thoughts we had yesterday, but 80 % of them are negative. And Bruce Lipton, who wrote the book, Biology of Belief, he said that 3,200 gene expressions

 

Lara Schmoisman (06:16)

Mm-hmm.

 

Mmm.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (06:39)

are actually triggered by the thoughts we think, by the words we use. So when you think about stress reduction, there’s no such thing as stress reduction. What we need to do is we need to build more capacity in our brain. So when we think about brain fitness, we’re talking about something called neuroplasticity, which they didn’t know about. If we were having, yeah.

 

Lara Schmoisman (06:58)

This is so

 

interesting that you were talking about this because I was reading Adam’s grant book where he explains that many times being a tutor, maybe you learn more than by trying to be a student.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (07:15)

Right. Yeah. They say we teach what we need to learn. In fact, when I had my interns, when I had my franchise company, you had to be an intern and then you had to teach somebody because if you couldn’t teach what you learned, you didn’t learn it.

 

Lara Schmoisman (07:18)

Exactly.

 

Yeah.

 

Exactly. It’s so important to be able to, and also to give you a better understanding, having to explain to someone, gives you, you not only have to understand the concept, you need to have the ability of expressing it.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (07:45)

Yes. Yeah. I mean, they say that if you can’t explain it simply, you don’t know it well enough. You know, a lot of people get all confused about what’s going on. So brain fitness is really a simple solution. I mean, we have brain tap, of course, the technology that I develop. But if we had time, the solution is get up without an alarm, let your own body’s natural rhythms wake you up with the light of the sun. You create your own cortisol, neuropronephrine, dopamine.

 

you’d be ready to go you wouldn’t need a cup of coffee you know that coffee if you need coffee in the morning you have a neurological imbalance because you just slept all night long why would you need coffee to wake you up you just slap in and they know that when you sleep that’s when you incubate your superpowers right if you wanna if you wanna perform better today have a good night’s sleep they’ve proven that if you have two nights in a row poor sleep it’s almost like you had two drinks of alcohol

 

Lara Schmoisman (08:33)

Mmm.

 

Mmm.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (08:44)

So sleep is really important. So we know the solution and the solution is turn off all of your technology two hours before bed, turn off the lights, know, do something happy, healthy, you know, maybe listen to some broke classical music or some light music, you know, maybe have a conversation with a family member, a friend, do something. You think about ancient traditions. What did we do in ancient times after we were out hunting and gathering?

 

we’d gather around the campfire, right? And we would talk about the day. Well, now we know in science, neuroscience tells us that that fire is burning at 10 Hertz frequency. That’s alpha. That’s the brain wave you wanna go to when you meditate. So the fire’s going. You ever been to a campfire and you go, that fire is mesmerizing. know, people just wanna stare at it. That’s because that fire is flickering. There’s a science called frequency following response.

 

Lara Schmoisman (09:16)

Mm-hmm.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (09:42)

So the brain actually matches that. We have mirror neurons in every cell. So our body then resonates to that 10 Hertz frequency. Then we begin to create what’s called acetylcholine, which is a neurotransmitter. These neurotransmitters are only activated through the different brain waves. So when you think about our lifestyle today, people go from 24 hour news cycles to talking, you know, worry about their business or concerns at night.

 

The last two hours before you go to bed should be only talking about positive things, what you’re going to do, maybe even having a prayer moment, whatever it is. And you could do all that without spending a dime because also we need to be outside getting sunlight. know, Dr. Cousins 20 years ago said the most under-rescribed nutrient on earth is light. And this is because people don’t understand our cells need light energy because everything you eat, everything you breathe,

 

Lara Schmoisman (10:28)

Yeah.

 

Yeah.

 

Yeah, that’s it.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (10:40)

Even the sounds

 

you hear around you are converted into electrical energy in the brain. And then the brain decodes them into pictures and images and sounds and all of these things. But it’s really comes down to something called ATP. This is the fuel for the cells. So in our business world, we have money, but in our body, we have ATP. So think of ATP like the currency for the body.

 

Lara Schmoisman (11:04)

Let me ask you a question doctor, how do you connect this with meditation? There are a lot of people that they say that meditation

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (11:12)

the we and I am a big believer in meditation. I think it’s great. The problem is that most people can’t get into a meditative state because they have something called the default mode network or the we call it the reticular activating system. So think of this system of the body. It’s there to protect us. It’s not a bad thing. But what it does is when you walk into a room, let’s say you walk into a strange environment, your brain is automatically scanning the environment. Is this safe for me?

 

Is it okay for me to express myself? Can I speak up? know, all these things come into play and your brain is doing all of that without your awareness. It’s being done through your subconscious, not through your conscious mind. And then depending upon if you look at life as a threat or you look at life as a challenge, your body will anticipate and step up or it will recede. You know, they, they say ourselves, all of ourselves are either in growth mode or in,

 

Lara Schmoisman (11:53)

Mm-hmm.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (12:11)

Protection mode so it starts really with that inner brain So when somebody’s meditating and and I’ve measured about 30,000 brains over the last 10 years over 30,000 brains actually and I could count on one hand the people that meditate correctly Actually, most people are meditating and hurting their brain Because what they’re doing is those 90,000 thoughts that I was telling you about earlier They’re negative right 80 % of them are negative. So when they go into meditation, they’re actually

 

Lara Schmoisman (12:30)

Mm-hmm.

 

Mm-hmm.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (12:40)

exacerbating the problem because they don’t have new instruction sets. That’d be like using an old computer with an old program trying to create a new solution to a new problem. You have to create a new solution to the old problem. You know, when Einstein said you have to go to the solution state and then return to the problem with the solution in mind, he meant, you know, that’s what meditation is meant for. But the problem is most people don’t have time for it.

 

You know, it takes about an hour for somebody to get into that. Nobody has an hour anymore. You need to, and you know about yoga, right? I mean, people do yoga all the time. When I go to India and I work with them, yoga was designed to prepare your body for meditation because your brain takes a lot of energy. So when you’re meditating, if you don’t have energy in your brain, and most people we measure, we have a piece of technology called neuro check. Most people.

 

Lara Schmoisman (13:08)

Mm-hmm.

 

Mm-hmm.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (13:37)

are not regulating their brain correctly. So we need to bring energy into the brain so they can actually think and actually meditate. Most people when they meditate, they just muse about all the things that are negative about them and their monkey mind takes over and they don’t really know what to do. That’s why you need an instructor typically. If you have a good instructor and you have a good process, yeah, maybe you can do it. But as I said, over the last 30 something years,

 

I’ve not seen very many people and I’ve been to India, I’ve been all over the world. They just don’t know how to do it because the conditions around you make it a part of it. When I was in India, for instance, I’ll give you an example. I took a guru up on stage and we measured his brain. And of course he had a really good brain. He’d been meditating, know, six.

 

Lara Schmoisman (14:24)

Hold on, hold on.

 

How do you measure someone’s right?

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (14:26)

you use something, we use something called the Wavi or EEG. Any EEG device would do it. The brain has a low level electrical current. So you need to put probes on the brain or you can use dry sensors now they have. So you can measure the brain that way, or you can measure it through something called ECG, which is your heart. Like if you have the smartwatches and all these devices that measure heart rate variability, you can also get brainwave activity there. But what I wanted to show people was that

 

Lara Schmoisman (14:45)

Mm-hmm.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (14:56)

This person meditates six to seven hours a day. Nobody has that time anymore. If you’re in business, you don’t have that much time. So I said, anybody in the audience who’s never meditated, and I brought somebody up on stage and I said, within seven minutes, they will have the same brain profile as that guru. People thought I was crazy. We did it. We do it every time because the brain follows light, sound, and vibration.

 

Lara Schmoisman (15:07)

Yeah.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (15:24)

Everything in the universe is made up of these things. The reason you can see me on the screen is because pulsating light, sound and vibration. you, your brain then forms it into images and pictures and experiences. So what we did was in, it was so funny because Varun, who’s one of our researchers now over in India, Ames Bhopal, he said to me, goes, Patrick, you’re cheating. I said, what do mean I’m cheating? He said that guru practiced meditation for 30 years.

 

Lara Schmoisman (15:37)

Mm-hmm.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (15:54)

This person just came up here in 10 minutes and did the same thing. I said, well, have you ever meditated to a candle? He said, yes. I just, like I said earlier with the campfire, I said a candle flickers at 10 Hertz frequency. So if you have ever taken a bath and lit the candle and relaxed, that’s because the candle is flickering at 10 Hertz frequency and emitting infrared light. Now in science today, we know we can create those environments. And then I said, yeah.

 

Lara Schmoisman (16:21)

That was my next question. How

 

can you create those environments? How you can create your mind to take that break? Because I feel sometimes you have those days and you just need, I know I need a break. A lot of people get it in a walk and other people get it in a glass of wine because you need a mental break.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (16:40)

right we we actually crave those things there was a there was an experiment done with with horses just to give you an example they they took these fermented apples and they put them in the field and the horses went over and they got drunk by eating these fermented apples right and then what they found out was so weird was they actually posted a horse there to protect their apples because everything every biological thing when you think about stress as stress goes up

 

our parasympathetic system goes down. So these two systems, the fight or flight or rest and recovery, but what’s happening now is there’s never a recovery time.

 

Lara Schmoisman (17:21)

So how do we recover? mean, so basically we’re all guilty of not letting our brain rest.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (17:29)

Right. It’s kind of like you can’t, you can’t leave your car on idle in the parking lot and then think it’s not going to run out of gas in the morning. You know, right. Right. So in our brains, if we’re constantly thinking in what we call the beta brain, that’s our wide awake alert consciousness, which we need while we’re talking here, that should only be 45 % of your brain’s prevailing awareness. 30 % of your brain should be in a state of alpha.

 

Lara Schmoisman (17:37)

That happened to my son once and I had to.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (17:59)

Alpha is a creative, intuitive, inventive brain state. And if you can get into the theta, that’s even better. With Varun too, said, Hey, do you ever wonder why the gurus go to the mountains to meditate? When you talk about environments, he said, he said, yeah, but to get away from people, said, no, they’re cheating. said, what do you mean? I said, when you’re sitting in the mountains, the mountains have an evoked potential of 7.8 Hertz frequency that happens to be theta.

 

So we can create these environments. Think about it when we were hunting and gathering, we were outside in nature, we were walking on the earth, we were getting sunlight. We weren’t under the constant chronic stress that we’re under now. They say the average person looks at their phone 300 times a day. Now, every time you look at that phone, if you’re the type of person that’s optimistic and everything’s good and positive, that might be okay, but most people aren’t. 90 % of people are negative.

 

Lara Schmoisman (18:51)

I know.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (18:53)

They have a propensity to think, no, what’s wrong? What’s the problem? Why are they texting me? Why am I getting this phone call? And that first response causes a cortical response in the brain that triggers the liver to produce 25, it releases actually, the liver holds 25 grams of sugar or the equivalent of 25 grams of sugar in the, and it dumps it into the bloodstream. Now.

 

Lara Schmoisman (19:16)

I have a question for you because this is fascinating to me and how our brain works and all the energy that we bring into our brain. But at the same time, how can we give it a break?

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (19:29)

Well,

 

you can do it by, well, there’s simple ways. They’ve done a lot of experiments without spending any money. You could listen to broke classical music, for instance, while you’re doing work. Like if you’re doing your homework or you’re doing your business work, put on some music that is not Led Zeppelin or Metallica, but we’re talking about broke classical music. What they found is this 10 cycle music actually synchronizes the hemispheres.

 

Lara Schmoisman (19:59)

All

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (19:59)

because

 

every cell is listening. Think of it like every cell is listening to that pulsing sound and then it harmonizes. All the listeners have to do is go on YouTube and search for synchronizing metronomes.

 

Lara Schmoisman (20:12)

What about the sounds a lot of people are sleep or they teach babies to sleep with certain sounds? How that affects your brain?

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (20:19)

Yes.

 

Well, we do that too. Yeah. What we do is you can slow down that rhythm now because of technology, we can change that rhythm from 10 cycles to 0.5 cycles. And that 0.5 cycles happens to be deep Delta. Now, when you’re sleeping, I’ll just tell you a little bit about an experiment we did with, we did a research project that was published with coal miners. These are people that when we did the study, the average coal miner spent 10 hours a night in bed.

 

Lara Schmoisman (20:46)

Mm-hmm.

 

Mm-hmm.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (20:54)

but they only got one minute of deep sleep. They weren’t sleeping. They were in bed. So when people think I need seven hours of sleep, no, you need six and a half hours of sleep. That’s the peak performance studies have shown that, but you need one hour of deep sleep and two hours of REM sleep. Now you can do that by creating the right environment or training yourself or, know, but you have to get into that first sleep cycle very quickly because when you reach that deep level four sleep that I’m talking about,

 

Lara Schmoisman (20:57)

Wow.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (21:23)

That’s when your brain detoxes. If you never reach level four sleep, your brain doesn’t detox. And then what you have is called leaky. Like people talk about leaky gut all the time in health because the gut membrane gets breached and proteins leak out into the bloodstream. Well, the same thing happens in the brain if you don’t detoxify the brain. So when you do these brain breaks, and you can do it through many ways, you can go for a nature walk.

 

I mean, there’s a lot of ways you can do it for free. Go outside and ground yourself. One of the experiments I tell people to do for themselves that they can go right now, today when they’re out and about, go to their Home Depot, Lowe’s, wherever they can find a volt ohm meter and ask the person to measure their voltage. And what they do is they put it on the volt meter and they’ll put the red on the right hand and the black on the left hand. And they’ll see that most people are running around with

 

three to four volts of energy moving through their body. That should be zero.

 

Lara Schmoisman (22:25)

I

 

want to give our audience a little more hands-on experience like I had at at Inakos when I was at the event and your team was able to measure me and my levels and you gave me different colors. Can you explain that process and how it works?

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (22:30)

Yep.

 

Sure. Well, I helped a team in Russia. They actually own the patent on what’s called HRV or heart rate variability. And they created this for the astronaut program for the cosmonauts over there. But what they did was they wanted to have a way to measure health. So think of heart rate variability as a gold standard to measure health. So what we can do is your heart actually is broadcasting information. Like I said, we can measure the brain with probes on the brain.

 

with your heart, you can measure it from up to 18 feet away. They can actually measure your heart frequency because it’s magnetic, it’s not just electrical. So what we were doing is we put a clip on one wrist and then a clip on the other wrist, and then we ran a low level current through. In physics, we need three parameters in order to create any equation, let’s say. we know that, we know.

 

what every frequency of the body is because the Russians have mapped that out. So they now know in science that every cell of your body resonates in a healthy state at a certain frequency. And most people think it’s not metaphysics anymore. This is science. There’s a science behind it. And they actually got a Nobel Prize for what they call fractal quantum mathematics. And what they did was for that,

 

Lara Schmoisman (23:42)

Mm-hmm.

 

Mm-hmm.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (24:05)

Cosmonaut program and we use this in our astronaut program here too as well is that they figured out that they could measure the between the pulses of the heart There’s something called the RR function and there’s information about our body it comes in codes which is Usually blows people away. It’s almost like a computer code our body has this code and What they did was they figured out the algorithm to tell us what’s the function of the heart?

 

What’s the function of the nervous system? What’s the function of your energy field? All of these things, and it’s all validated in science. So what we did with you is we showed you what your baseline was. You how are you doing right now? Are you in a, are you in a sympathetic state, which means you’re in fight or flight in most people by the. Yes. So you were the red state means you were in a very neuro hormonal state, which means.

 

Lara Schmoisman (24:44)

Mm-hmm.

 

I was in a very red state.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (24:59)

your body was doing all the work. So think of there’s three different systems of the body that regulate our neuro, our really our physiology. What is our parasympathetic or sympathetic and our neurohormonal. Neurohormonal is like our backup generator. So think of it like we just had a storm, we just had a hurricane and the power went out. So we have to turn on our generator. That generator takes a lot of energy to do it. So if you’re in the red state, like you were saying, that means at the end of the day, you’re probably pretty tired.

 

because you run out of energy. Use up all your energy.

 

Lara Schmoisman (25:32)

So how

 

do you change the red state to a different state? What is it?

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (25:37)

Well, that’s

 

what we do with, that’s why we use light, and vibration. What we found is that the science now we can measure the energy at the mitochondria level. So for the listeners, every cell of your body has an energy center called mitochondria. And in there also is something called a chromoform, which is a battery. It stores that energy. So every cell has an energy battery that triggers the mitochondria release of ATP.

 

Lara Schmoisman (25:56)

I’m

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (26:06)

Now, what they proved was when you use light therapy like we do with Brain Tap through the ear lights, which is really weird. People always go, why do you have lights in the ears? It’s because your body absorbs light energy. not, we are physical, of course, but we are also bio-photayic. There’s actually our National Institute of Health said in 1994 that we have a field of energy. You know, during COVID they said we were shedding.

 

You heard that expression when people said they’re shedding because they had COVID or something. The reality is we’re always shedding. We’re always broadcasting bio-photic energy. That’s how we see things. Like we see a plant because it’s emitting bio-photic exchange. We’re seeing the photons emit and we see a leaf or something like that or a tree or a person or a car. And so this is always happening. But what happens as it decays

 

that energy goes down. So we need to fill up the gas tank. Now you can do that in three ways. One, you can eat really well. You can drink half your body’s weighted ounces of water. You can eat nutritionally well. Now that’s really good. That’s a first start because you can’t out think a bad diet. Number two, you got to get up and move and breathe. Right now, one of the problems we have in our society is we sit so much, right? So when you’re sitting, your nervous system, they now say sitting is the new smoking.

 

because 20 minutes of sitting is equivalency in health to smoking a cigarette, which isn’t good, right? So we want to get up and move and breathe. So I always tell people at least once an hour, get up and move, you know, cause you get behind the computer screen and you kind of lose track of time. And then number three is you need to do some kind of brain fitness. Now, if you don’t own the brain tap, you’re going to have to do some kind of breath work, meditation, mindfulness training.

 

Lara Schmoisman (27:44)

Yeah. Yeah.

 

Okay.

 

Before we want, we need to go, but I want to talk a little more about Brain Tap app because we didn’t get to that. And how the Brain Tap app can help you get out of the red.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (28:04)

Yes.

 

Yeah, well you can share the link here with your audience. Yeah, yeah, and when you share that link, they actually will also get a copy of my book, Thrive and Overdrive, so they can learn more about it if they wanna know behind it. But in that app will actually train you. Now it doesn’t have the light part of it, that’s the headset. But for 14 days, you can use it for free. So what I always tell people is do an experiment with yourself. If you’re not sleeping well, there’s actually a 21 day quick start program on the app.

 

Lara Schmoisman (28:13)

I will, definitely.

 

Perfect.

 

That’s right.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (28:40)

that you can play the first 14 days for free if you don’t like it.

 

Lara Schmoisman (28:44)

Sometimes

 

you think that you sleep well, but you don’t realize how bad you’re sleeping, even though you sleep a lot of hours. I know people who can sleep 12 hours and they wake up tired.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (28:49)

Yes.

 

Yeah, because it’s not about time in bed like I was talking about with the coal miners. It’s about how efficiently are you sleeping? you going through these every time you go through these brainwave cycles? That’s why the brain training is so important to get the brainwaves engaged in every one of those brainwaves actually triggers another neurotransmitter and there’s 54 neurotransmitters. So when you think about these neurotransmitters, they are the what makes mental health happen. When everybody’s talking about this mental health crisis we have in the world today.

 

Lara Schmoisman (28:59)

Mm-hmm.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (29:25)

It’s not a psychological problem. It’s a physiological problem. The body isn’t producing the energy that it needs for us to be well. And so your body needs energy to heal, to give you creativity, to give you inventiveness, to handle the stresses that happen, especially if you’re an entrepreneur. You need to have that high energy because you’re doing every job. You might be the janitor, the HR department, the…

 

Lara Schmoisman (29:52)

That normally happen, paying

 

the bills and yes, so yeah, that happened. And we definitely will put in the chapter list the link for your website. So before we really go now, what recommendations you can give someone who is stressed, someone who feels that they are not as productive, because I do believe that sleep also has to do a lot with productivity.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (29:55)

Yes.

 

Yes, yeah, we actually did a study on that as well.

 

Lara Schmoisman (30:23)

And I want

 

to ask you one more thing because you mentioned something really important, the negativity. How sleep can affect to be negative or positive if you have any data on that?

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (30:34)

yeah, well they did an experiment actually measuring mitochondrial health. And they found out that people who are negative thinkers, rather than positive thinkers, they produce 200 times less energy. So imagine that we all know those people that, you know, they walk in the room and gets a little darker. You know, we call them energy drainers or energy vampires. You know, they show up at meetings and you go, no, Sally’s here or Betty’s here or Frank’s here, you know.

 

Lara Schmoisman (30:47)

really? That’s fascinating!

 

Mm-hmm. Yes.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (31:02)

But then you have the other person that comes in and they’re high energy. Everybody wants to, go, all right, Laura’s here. You know, all the, you know, the energy is high because you’re broadcasting energy.

 

Lara Schmoisman (31:12)

Yes.

 

Yes. It’s such a difference. yeah, you can totally tell those people. And even I will say on Zoom, we had even lately in a situation with someone in our team that we really felt like it was taking away the energy instead of bringing positive energy.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (31:33)

Yeah. And what it is is everything in nature is always trying to seek balance. So when you have a group, that’s why they say you’re only as strong as your weakest link. So if you find that weakest link and you can build them up, you know, get them thinking more positive. In fact, in studies, they showed the best thing you can do for longevity. If somebody’s wanting to live longer and healthier, it’s positive thinking six and a half years.

 

Lara Schmoisman (31:38)

Mm-hmm.

 

Mm-hmm.

 

Yes. Absolutely.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (32:01)

They’ve proven that it adds six and a half years to your life just being a positive thinker. So what I always tell people to go, this negative person’s bothering me, said, don’t worry about it. You’re gonna be around six and a half years longer than them. Just let them be, don’t give them any energy. The main thing is don’t give away your energy to people. I taught my kids, don’t give away your remote control.

 

Lara Schmoisman (32:06)

I-I-

 

Mm-hmm.

 

No, because really the negative energy sucks your positive energy. I don’t understand how it works, but you can feel it.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (32:27)

Yes. Well, they were seeking

 

balance. So think in terms of they want your energy because they’re low energy people. I tell people this is an easy way to think about it. Everything is frequency. What you frequently see. So if you’re a positive person, you frequently see positive things. You eat positive foods. You hang around with positive people. You have positive activities. If you frequently see negative things.

 

Lara Schmoisman (32:40)

Mm-hmm.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (32:54)

and you’re a negative thinker, you seek out negative foods, negative relationships, negative environments. Do you understand what I’m saying? So think of frequency. you’ve just changed, just like a radio dial, you want to change your frequency and you do that. Sometimes you just have to pump yourself up, you know, and that’s why we have with BrainTap. If they download the app, there’s sessions for the morning to get you started in the morning to get you, get you fired up, get your brain going in the right direction. It’s a brain wave called SMR. In the middle of the day, you do a reboot.

 

Lara Schmoisman (33:01)

Yes, I’m sorry.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (33:23)

because it’s normal to feel tired in the middle of the day, your temperature drops two degrees. And there’s a lot more about that. They can learn on the website and things like that. But then at night we need to down regulate so we can get that deep cycle relaxation and really heal our body and our mind and process our day in a way that we wake up in the morning ready to take on the day. And we shouldn’t need coffee in the morning. If you need coffee in the morning, you have a neurological issue.

 

So we need to fix that problem. I’m not saying you don’t drink coffee. You just don’t drink it first thing in the morning. You should be exercising, doing some breath work, some positive affirmations, something that gets you pumped up for the day.

 

Lara Schmoisman (34:05)

100%. And I, you know, I’m a coffee lover and by the name of this podcast, you can say how many coffees I can get today, but it should be something that you add to your life, not to replace something else.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (34:19)

Yes, I love coffee. I mean, we spend a lot of money on coffee. have the probably one of the best coffee makers Mila in our home, but we don’t drink it first thing in the morning because we want our own cortisol, neuropronephrine and dopamine to be working. But after two hours of being awake, then I can enjoy my cup of coffee and I do my light therapy. I have a I have a soul light, which I basically before I get on my computer, I actually get sunlight. It’s it’s manufactured. But if I get outside,

 

When I’m home, I walk outside, I get sunlight because ourselves, we need to wake up ourselves. Then we can enjoy anything we want. Everything’s good in balance. You can have a glass of wine if you want, as long as you’re doing it in balance. Now, a bottle of wine, that’s not the same thing. You know what I mean?

 

Lara Schmoisman (35:04)

Absolutely.

 

Well, doctor, thank you so much for spending time with us. This was really, really great. And for you out there, you know how to be more productive. It’s just regulate your sleep. Regulate is about balance. And like everything in business is balanced. Like you balance your sheet, you also need to balance your brain and your body.

 

Patrick K. Porter, Ph.D. (35:29)

Yes, thank you.

 

Lara Schmoisman (35:31)

And to you guys, I will see you next week with more Coffee Number 5. Talk soon!